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la_marquise ([personal profile] la_marquise) wrote2012-08-26 05:27 pm

La femme celte

I'm blogging today about the myth of the Celtic Woman, over on Charles Stross' blog, for those who are interested. Comments are down there, at present, due to spambots, but you can comment here, if you're interested.

Skirt of the day: red and gold silk wrap.

[identity profile] girlycomic.livejournal.com 2012-08-26 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know much at all past the perceived wisdom of that era of history, so found the article really interesting.

[identity profile] timscience.livejournal.com 2012-08-26 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)
This contradicts everything I have been led to believe in the pages of 2000AD.......

[identity profile] marina-bonomi.livejournal.com 2012-08-26 06:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Stands and applauds.

Thank you, I'm so sick and tired of what 'everybody knows' in history.

Can you suggest any serous reading for the non-specialist as an introduction to celtic cultures in the British Isles?

Any of them, I mean, not necessarily *all* of them.

[identity profile] lil-shepherd.livejournal.com 2012-08-26 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Go, Kari, go!

I am not a historian, but I've read enough real historians and enough translations of ancient texts to stand on the sidelines cheering you on.

[identity profile] mevennen.livejournal.com 2012-08-26 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
>Peoples who speak related languages, even mutually comprehensible ones, often differ quite noticeably from each other in culture.

Downtown Swansea on a Saturday night; the Bell, Skenfrith, Saturday night. I rest your case.

I'm glad I live now, is all I can say.

Extremely interesting article - thank you.

[identity profile] saare-snowqueen.livejournal.com 2012-08-26 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
That is telling it lie it is. A shame the people - the Neo-Celtic revisionists - won't be reading it.

Excellent essay.

[identity profile] steepholm.livejournal.com 2012-08-26 06:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Very good essay. This stuff needs saying, but you'll probably have to say it again, and again, and again...

[identity profile] stina-leicht.livejournal.com 2012-08-26 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Great reading. I'm so listing that link on my Monday post. Thanks for writing it. In spite of being told otherwise, I didn't and don't believe in the "magical matriarchy that existed before Christianity" schtick.

[identity profile] gillpolack.livejournal.com 2012-08-27 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
The essay is getting a really interesting reception - I love following the discussion and seeing how much readers have taken in and how their views change. We need more essays that do this!

[identity profile] voske.livejournal.com 2012-08-27 07:04 am (UTC)(link)
That was a pretty good of 5 years worth of Celtic Studies, I can tell you! have you ever heard of this book,
Celticism, edited by Terence Brown (http://books.google.nl/books/about/Celticism.html?id=D3jfIFUj32IC&redir_esc=y)
?

[identity profile] xenaclone.livejournal.com 2012-08-27 08:58 am (UTC)(link)
Where do you stand on Brigit and Hilda of Whitby? Women abbesses and with at least the power and status of bishops.

[identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com 2012-08-27 01:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I used to work for an archaeological consultancy firm. I remember a conversation with the archaeologists about pre-Roman Britain. I was surprised and a little confused when a few of them suggested that the various tribes living in Britain in the1st Century BC might not have seem themselves as part of a pan-British culture. For years before hand I’d carried round in my head the idea that the various tribes would be politically distinct but that they would see themselves as culturally uniform but for some small differences.

[identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com 2012-08-27 01:35 pm (UTC)(link)
My dad has recently bought a house in Orkney. He studied up there about 5 years ago and has been visiting often since then.

Could you recommend a book or two on Orcadian history?

[identity profile] dorispossum.livejournal.com 2012-08-27 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I remember illuminating discussion we had about this one some time back - very refreshing to get some facts in exchange for those tiresomely comforting, compensatory fantasies about ancient matriarchies.

[identity profile] green-knight.livejournal.com 2012-08-29 03:26 pm (UTC)(link)
You're destroying people's fantasies with facts. This will not do!

In the light of constant infighting and changing alliances, the idea of a pan-Celtic identity has always stricken me as rather curious...

Cletic Women

[identity profile] tina-anghelatos.livejournal.com 2012-08-29 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for writing this - I really enjoyed it and it reminds me of the unsubstantiated arguments people make for the existence of a Greek triple goddess!