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la_marquise ([personal profile] la_marquise) wrote2011-12-09 04:01 pm
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Bl**dy Tories

Today's veto has really depressed me. Not the detail, but because of the triumphalist Little Englandism that it has brought crawling out of the woodwork. We need Europe to secure our long-term future. This isn't about 'sovereignty', it's about kow-towing to Big Capital and it's needs. The US won't support us even if we wanted it to (and opinions vary on that). I am sick and tired of the triumph of prejudice.
Off into the Word Mines to carve out some more Red Fantasy. A bas les aristos!
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[identity profile] autopope.livejournal.com 2011-12-09 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Look deeper: the sensationalist tabloids run this line of propaganda because they're owned by right-wing billionaires (or near-billionaires) like Rupert Murdoch, Conrad Black (before his fall), and Andrew Desmond. There's a vulgar bigoted Atlanticist strain to this ideology that likes to imagine it's following in the tradition of Winston Churchill but in reality is in hock to the same malign influences as the US Republican Party.[*] But anyway: the great deregulation that's swept the USA since Reagan's election in 1980 is something that they'd love to implement in other markets, and by hiving the UK off from the rather more strongly regulated EU they can give themselves a happy capitalist playground.

I'm going to leave your last sentence standing because it sums it all up: a cabal of racisms, xenophobes, imperialists and the worst kind of selfish capitalists.

[*] Churchill at least had a non-hypocritical reason for being an Americanophile: his maternal family.
Edited 2011-12-09 16:26 (UTC)

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/la_marquise_de_/ 2011-12-09 04:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, that too. (I omitted it because I can never remember Desmond's name. Which is stupid, but I have a blind-spot about it.) But yes, the Big Media are part of the means by which Big Capital promotes its own interests over those of the masses.
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[personal profile] lagilman 2011-12-09 04:56 pm (UTC)(link)
But in reality is in hock to the same malign influences as the US Republican Party.[*] But anyway: the great deregulation that's swept the USA since Reagan's election in 1980 is something that they'd love to implement in other markets


yeah, cause that's all worked SO WELL for us. *headdesks*

I have never, ever understood isolationist politics, and I certainly don't understand the theory behind isolationist financial politics. Last time that worked was, oh....1840? Maybe?
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[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/la_marquise_de_/ 2011-12-09 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
No, me either. I can only speculate that they view things in an incredibly narrow lens of their own and their friends' immediate self-interest. And are deeply prejudiced against and afraid of anything and anyone not exactly like themselves.
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[personal profile] lagilman 2011-12-09 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
let me rephrase - I understand why THEY do it... I just don't understand IT.

I can be just as narrow-minded, selfish and terrified as anyone else. But I don't see where locking the door of my stateroom will keep the damn ship from running into an iceberg and sinking.

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/la_marquise_de_/ 2011-12-09 06:50 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I don't get that bit, either. Unless they think that they'll be okay because *their* stateroom floats?
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[identity profile] autopope.livejournal.com 2011-12-10 02:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Unless they think that they'll be okay because *their* stateroom floats?

I think that nails it.

It's odd how virtually every nation that raises the immigration ramparts -- like the UK or the USA -- has a hail-friend loophole waiting for anyone who can afford to plop down a cheque for £1M or so and declare themselves to be an "investor".