I think we've had this conversation before but this is taking me all the way back to my brief and dangerous flirtation with student politics in the 1980s and early 1990s - where the drive for perfection smashed everything up.

As I've said elsewhere I was smoothing the way for my 12 year old niece to go to Loncon and announcing Ross as Kari mentions did make it look more acceptable to people who normally look down on SF. The only thing I've been able to think of when reading the arguments for a 'safe' and 'inclusive' space is safe and inclusive for whom? :(