Oh yeah; the grad student tried to explain the difference to them between "scientific research" and "watching a video/documentary", but was ignored.
& yes to the "never willing to read"; I pointed out to them that much of the derision wasn't just because they were questioning climate change, but tying it in to "evil left wing plot to control every aspect of people's lives", and asking if any of the people in the vid were upset about efforts to actually regulate people's private lives. They ignored this, too, and complained I gave no sources because I could remember only a couple off the top of my head, and when I looked up several hundred for them (okay, I only put a few on the post, and linked to lists of several hundred more), they said 'their' experts in the youtube video "disproved" 'my' experts.
Dunno who most of their experts were, but I think one was this guy I heard on a radio program once "debunking" global warming, who kept wuoting various prestigious organizations as having made various findings. My wife went to his website, where he made the same claim, complete w/links. She followed some of the links. They tended to be along the lines of "Scientists at the Grade A Bestest Climatology Institute say "The amount of Ice in Antarctica is increasing" " . Then you go to the link, and it says "There is no truth to the claims that the amount of ice in Antarctica is increasing." So he took real quotes out of context and made it appear as if they were saying the opposite of what they said. Tis amazing he hasn't been sued blind.
But I'm going way off topic here, except, well, I suspect a lot of the people arguing w/Kari have similarly excellent sources and skill w/logic.
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& yes to the "never willing to read"; I pointed out to them that much of the derision wasn't just because they were questioning climate change, but tying it in to "evil left wing plot to control every aspect of people's lives", and asking if any of the people in the vid were upset about efforts to actually regulate people's private lives. They ignored this, too, and complained I gave no sources because I could remember only a couple off the top of my head, and when I looked up several hundred for them (okay, I only put a few on the post, and linked to lists of several hundred more), they said 'their' experts in the youtube video "disproved" 'my' experts.
Dunno who most of their experts were, but I think one was this guy I heard on a radio program once "debunking" global warming, who kept wuoting various prestigious organizations as having made various findings. My wife went to his website, where he made the same claim, complete w/links. She followed some of the links. They tended to be along the lines of "Scientists at the Grade A Bestest Climatology Institute say "The amount of Ice in Antarctica is increasing" " . Then you go to the link, and it says "There is no truth to the claims that the amount of ice in Antarctica is increasing." So he took real quotes out of context and made it appear as if they were saying the opposite of what they said. Tis amazing he hasn't been sued blind.
But I'm going way off topic here, except, well, I suspect a lot of the people arguing w/Kari have similarly excellent sources and skill w/logic.