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la_marquise ([personal profile] la_marquise) wrote2008-11-25 11:03 am

'What have I told you about playing football in the road?'

Some observations from here.
Survivors is still as chilling as I found the original series, but I find New Abby a little uneven -- she's obsessive! she's inspirational! -- and I rather miss the brittle selfishness of the original character. She was admirable but she wasn't likeable and that is a category we seldom get to see in women on tv these days. New Abby is a little too touchy-feely for me.
Anya=Jenny was always my favourite character and she's as I recall her, even re-named.
The marquis and I love Al and Tafik -- the Hiro and Ando of the show. May they flourish.
Not convinced by re-tread Tom. So far, so Sawyer-lite, and I don't see the point, really. The original Tom was about social commentary and about the limitations of some people's imaginations.
We want to see more of Callum.
Patterson Joseph, however, rocks as Greg.

Meanwhile, I have four chapters left to proof-read, the cats are circling and I have a sore throat.

Some rambles on 'Survivors' with possible spoilers at the bottom (after a warning)

[identity profile] birdsedge.livejournal.com 2008-11-25 01:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed, Patterson Joseph as Greg is great. I liked the original Greg, too (and the original Jenny).

The jury is still out on Tom Price. The original TP was a sly bastard, workshy and cowardly, insidiously nasty, but not downright shoot-you-in-the-face evil. (He'd never have had the nerve.) This TP has a lot more balls amd I can't see him wimping out like old TP did if he was being threatened by someone.

I agree about the new Abby. Old Abby wasn't likeable but she was admirable. I likes Old Abby's brittleness. New Abby is a bit too touchy-feely, as you say. We'll have to see.

Why didn't Abby rope in the hiking man from the outdoor centre? He'd have been a practical bloke to have around. That wasn't logical. In the original the schoolteacher Old Abby found when she went searching for Peter was elderly and frail and more or less 'waiting to die' - hence not dragging him with her on the road made sense. It didn't make sense to leave behind an outdoors-type. They needed to build in some flaw into the outdoors type (obviously mentally unstable/suicidal) or give some otherwise good reason why she wouldn't try to latch on to the first person she met.

If I'd have written Abby the conversation might have gone:
'What are you going to do?'
'I'm going to bury the boys and go for a walk.'
'Tell you what... I'll help you bury the boys and you come down to the hospital with me to look for one of your other boys... and then we'll talk about you going for a walk.'

I thought the bait-and-switch with Freema Agyeman was cheap. i.e. casting her as 'Jenny' in the flat-share scenario and then killing her off.



SHUT YOUR EYES IF YOU DON'T WANT A POSSIBLE SPOILER (NOT SURE HOW TO HIDE BEHIND A CUT ON A REPLY)



If they stick to the plot of the original book she was killed off at the end of the first one and the second book was all about Peter coming to terms with life the universe and everything (asnd the fact that he'd been th one to kill his mother, albeit without realising at the time who this strange woman running towards him was.

I can't actually see them doing that, though. I mean - the book is still out there for those of us who remember it from the first time round. (It's actually one of those books that I read more than once, hence I have a fairly clear memory of it.)

[identity profile] surliminal.livejournal.com 2008-11-25 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Amazing how well people remember it - I only remembered Abby and dimly, Greg.
I don't think Abby is touchy feely - so far she's about right to me. Her exaspePERATED "STAY TOGETHER" speech came over to me more as instrumental than inspirational.
TP is OK with me - don't remeber the old guy and he's very Daniel Craig in his laconic charm!

The best unlikeable woman on TV btw iss by streets, Ros on Spooks. Please god they don't kill her off again..

Re: Some rambles on 'Survivors' with possible spoilers at the bottom (after a warning)

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/la_marquise_de_/ 2008-11-25 02:26 pm (UTC)(link)
It would be good top think they'll carry through with the book, but I suspect star power may be factored in...
I so agree about Callum, the outdoor pursuits guy -- he would be the perfect person to team up with. Hopefully, he'll re-appear.

[identity profile] desperance.livejournal.com 2008-11-26 06:24 pm (UTC)(link)
the cats are circling

Is that like vultures?

(As if I didn't know...)

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/la_marquise_de_/ 2008-11-26 07:11 pm (UTC)(link)
We call it sharking. But it's the same principle.

[identity profile] ci5rod.livejournal.com 2008-11-27 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
I missed it, as per usual these days; must watch it via the Intarweb instead.

The original series was filmed not far from where I grew up, and the cast used to drink in my Dad's local. (We were a small village, we didn't even have our own pub.) According to Dad, Abby's general unlikeableness did not involve any acting.

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/la_marquise_de_/ 2008-11-27 10:24 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. My grandmother lived just down the road from the manor house that became the base for the group in the later episodes, and we would see the film crews when we drove past.

[identity profile] stevegreen.livejournal.com 2008-11-29 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Patterson Joseph, however, rocks as Greg.

And shortly to move into the Tardis, I hear.